# Standing Technical Meetup - 13th Sept 2023 (Previous) **URL:** \ **Category:** Technical\ **Created:** [September 25, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/standing-technical-meetup-13th-sept-2023-previous/441 "2023-09-25T13:42:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dan-ODS](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openreferral.org/dan-ods/32/89_2.png) [@Dan-ODS](https://forum.openreferral.org/u/Dan-ODS)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/standing-technical-meetup-13th-sept-2023-previous/441/1 "2023-09-25T13:42:11Z")
Apologies this for the delay, but here are links to the [running notes](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SYmsSa_U8uQKZW0zhEq8H6CNttNeWPqP7BAV0HDJa2o/edit) doc and [recording](https://youtu.be/LRJyPMtWXkY) of the Standing Technical Meetup - 13th September. Below you can find a summary of the discussion points and actions arising: **Documentation Review.** - @mrshll gave an overview of his work on this. Since the meeting he has put out a [dedicated post](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/our-review-of-the-hsds-docs-is-available-for-comment/430) explaining his findings form the review and a summarising changes made as a result. _ **Action:** Please review Matt’s [forum post](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/our-review-of-the-hsds-docs-is-available-for-comment/430) which directs you to[a branch containing the drafted changes](http://docs.openreferral.org/en/documentation-review/). Please post any comments/feedback you may have in responses to the forum post or email daniel.smith@opendataservices.coop_ **Design Principles.** - We discussed [design principles](http://docs.openreferral.org/en/latest/design_principles.html) and whether with the recent 3.0 upgrade we’ve diverged from the principle of ‘simplicity’ to the extent that we need to reconsider this value/principle. - @skyleryoung @MikeThacker-iStandUK @davidraznick we’re of the opinion that simplicity remains a design principle, for the following reasons: 1. Version 3.0 has some simplifications over version 2.0 2. The formatting remains simple. 3. Required fields have been kept at a minimum and are simple and the complexity is optional 4. @skyleryoung also made the point that Fidelity acts as a counterbalance simplicity _ **Action** : If you have views or opinions on this topic please post them here or email to: daniel.smith@opendataservices.coop_ **Use Cases.** - We flagged that the [use cases](http://docs.openreferral.org/en/latest/hsds/use_cases.html) page requires some attention and requested people share views and opinions on how it could be improved if they have any. - [Here](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/our-review-of-the-hsds-docs-is-available-for-comment/430/3), I’ve suggested we reconcile with the [Types of use and user personas page](https://docs.openreferral.org/en/latest/initiative/index.html?highlight=types%20of%20use#types-of-use-and-user-personas) in the [Project Documentation Section](https://docs.openreferral.org/en/latest/initiative/index.html?highlight=types%20of%20use#project-documentation). _ **Action:** If you have views or opinions on this topic please post them here or email to daniel.smith@opendataservices.coop_ **Profile Documentation and Tooling.** - We directed attention to Matt’s [Forum Post](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/documenting-the-profile-mechanism/414/4)on this work and gave an update on an issue we’ve encountered affecting the auto-generation of the ERD’s when testing out the profile tooling with the ORUK Profile. Initially we thought this was a bug but turns out its more a feature that required some further documentation. _ **Action** : ODSC to [document this](https://github.com/orgs/openreferral/projects/2/views/2?pane=issue&itemId=40755818) and continue to work with ORUK to [address the minor issue they’re experiencing.](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o29KDYoJ5XiUqPoS8KVr3oxqUTFS7HnnW2ASqupmE0Q/edit#heading=h.6fsizpew1w19)_ **Update on ORUK profile and UK Ecosystem.** - We brought attention to @MikeThacker-iStandUK’s [Forum post](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/upgrade-to-uk-standard-and-compliance-rules-version-3-0/427/5) on the ORUK profile. - FYI - Greg has since put out a [blog post](https://openreferral.org/introducing-profiles-customize-our-standard-for-your-domain/) announcing the profiling mechanism and drawing attention to the ORUK profile as an example already in action. - Mike is in the process of communicating with UK developers about the profile but we suspect that it will be difficult to gain traction without a validator; which is our immediate priority in terms of tooling. - Mike updated on work involving the dept for local government over the next three months that could help to mainstream the standard and potentially unlock resourcing/funding going forward. It could also result in a company with 70% of the market for local government service directories becoming fully compliant (as opposed to in alignment) with the standard which could act as a tipping point for the UK ecosystem. **Next meeting.** - Our next Standing Technical Meetup meeting takes place on the [11th October 16:00 UTC](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=NGc3MzRhcDVsc2NnNDRlMTdwZWQ0MmptaW1fMjAyMzEwMTFUMTUwMDAwWiBkYW5pZWwuc21pdGhAb3BlbmRhdGFzZXJ2aWNlcy5jb29w&tmsrc=daniel.smith%40opendataservices.coop&scp=ALL). If you would like to join us please let me know via this forum post or email me at daniel.smith@opendataservices.coop and I will shoot over an invite. See [here](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SYmsSa_U8uQKZW0zhEq8H6CNttNeWPqP7BAV0HDJa2o/edit) for running notes with a link to the video and transcript from the meeting. Many thanks, Dan ---
**Author:** ![bloom](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openreferral.org/bloom/32/103_2.png) [@bloom](https://forum.openreferral.org/u/bloom)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/standing-technical-meetup-13th-sept-2023-previous/441/2 "2023-10-04T20:25:41Z")
Just a note that our next standing Technical Meetup is one week from today! [11th October 16:00 UTC](https://calendar.google.com/calendar/event?action=TEMPLATE&tmeid=NGc3MzRhcDVsc2NnNDRlMTdwZWQ0MmptaW1fMjAyMzEwMTFUMTUwMDAwWiBkYW5pZWwuc21pdGhAb3BlbmRhdGFzZXJ2aWNlcy5jb29w&tmsrc=daniel.smith%40opendataservices.coop&scp=ALL). What should be on our agenda? (Also, I’m not sure if we should have a generic running thread for coordinating these meetings… or a different thread for each meeting? Thoughts?) ---
**Author:** ![Dan-ODS](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openreferral.org/dan-ods/32/89_2.png) [@Dan-ODS](https://forum.openreferral.org/u/Dan-ODS)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2023, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/standing-technical-meetup-13th-sept-2023-previous/441/3 "2023-10-05T13:04:52Z")
Maybe we could do a separate post for each meeting which we could create immediately after can use for item proposals prior and then notes, summary, actions afterwards? I’ll create one for next weeks now. ---
**Author:** ![bloom](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openreferral.org/bloom/32/103_2.png) [@bloom](https://forum.openreferral.org/u/bloom)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/standing-technical-meetup-13th-sept-2023-previous/441/4 "2023-11-22T14:51:40Z")
Archiving these old monthly technical meeting threads as we’ll use [this one](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/standing-technical-meetups/454/4) for these meetings moving forward ---
**Author:** ![bloom](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.openreferral.org/bloom/32/103_2.png) [@bloom](https://forum.openreferral.org/u/bloom)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://forum.openreferral.org/t/standing-technical-meetup-13th-sept-2023-previous/441/5 "2023-11-22T14:51:48Z")